Systems Archive 1

Simpified Hi-Opt (and Other Count Systems)

Posted by MathProf on Friday, 7 November 1997, at 8:51 a.m., in response to I had no idea my hiopt1 was a simplified one, posted by white_elephant on Thursday, 6 November 1997, at 4:07 p.m.

Before you get too mad at Humble about only having the "Simplified System" ... I wanted to point out some things.

My recollection is that he gives the indeces for -6 to +6 and that he has data showing that this gives you most of your gain (I presume SD gain).

Now about Index Numbers, something that should be understood. Let us that a hypothetical standing number is +3. In practice, this may mean that the perfect index is 2.8, so that at +3 standing is marginally better, and at +2 hitting is marginally better. However the gain in Standing will escalate as your Count Increase. That is, you will have more gain at +4, even more ar +5 and lots of gain at +6. My point is that Most of the gain from playing an index number comes at higher numbers. More sepcifically, suppose that the highest True Count you see is +10. The +10 indeces will give you marginally better plays. But there will a great of gain from +6 indeces at this level.

Now if you are playing shoes games (you said 8 dealt down to 2 ... I thought you were not going to playing at Windosr anymore but were going to Mt. PLeasant or other palces) you will almost never see counts abopve +10. Knowing the plays at +6 are more than adequate.

Furthermore, if you play SD, you have to ask yourself if you will really use the indeces. Do you want to know the index for Hitting 16 v 6. Will you really Hit 16 v 6 if you are playing SD? Will you ever double a 5 vs, 6. I don't know very much about SD play myself, but if there is half as much Heat as there they indicate there is, I would be afraid to make these plays ....

I'm sorry I missed your question on BJ21. Part of the reason that no-one has answered your question is that it is difficult and depends on a lot of variables: betting strategy, penetration, etc. I think the Short Anwswer is that among Counts that Employ Aces for Betting, there will not be a significant difference in a Shoe Game. Pick the one that is most simple for you to play. (Single Deck is a lot better).

Let me emphaisze the effect of simplicity on your bankroll. Errors decrease you EV and hurt your bankroll. More playing time will get you into the "Long Run" faster and help smooth out fluctuations.

FYI, there is an article in BJ Forum comparing Count Systems in Single Decks. You might want to check out.

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